You’re Not a Millionaire Yet and It’s Your Fault – with Larry Winget

Six-Time Bestselling Author, Speaker & TV personality. The Pitbull of Personal Development? – Larry Winget

 

The Pitbull of personal development joins me today – with a kick in the butt that you need! Larry lays is all down in simple terms. You are the problem, AND you are the solution. He gives solid advice on how you can take control back of your life and circumstances to achieve anything you want.

Resources Mentioned in the Podcast:

• Shut Up, Stop Whining, and Get a Life by Larry Winget
• Jim Rohn
• People Are Idiots and I Can Prove It! by Larry Winget

Go to LarryWinget.com for more info!

Thanks so much for listening!

Transcript:
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Announcer: Welcome to the Eventual Millionaire podcast - with your host, Jaime Tardy. Real talk and real advice from real millionaires, with a sharp focus on you - the Eventual Millionaire.

Jaime: Welcome to Eventual Millionaire. I'm Jaime Tardy and I'm super excited to have Larry Winget on the show. I remember reading his personal development books way back when I was getting out of $70,000. He's called the Pitbull of Personal Development, he's got a crazy attitude - one of his books is called "Shut Up, Stop Whining and Get a Life." I remember reading that and thinking "Yep, that's a good point." So thank you so much for coming on the show today, Larry. I really appreciate it.

Larry: My pleasure. I appreciate you having me.

Jaime: Beautiful. So tell us a little bit about your stance on personal development and how you got into this whole world? It's a huge question.

Larry: Most people in the personal development and self-help industry make it all about the help. I make it all about the self. In fact, if I summed up all that I've done for the last 23-24 years, currently six New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers, appearing on all of these television shows and I've spoken to over 400 of the Fortune 500 companies, I can sum it up with one line - your life is your own damn fault. That's what it always comes down to. Your thoughts, your words, your actions created the life you're living. You did it, and so you've got to take responsibility for it. If you don't like the way it is, do something about it.

Jaime: I love that. So no whining. I mean that's the whole point. So how does someone who's stuck, right now, listening to you, you're all excited and inspiring, tell it like it is, so someone is going "My life isn't exactly where I want it to be right now."

Larry: That's a lie, first of all. Let me stop you. Everybody's life is exactly how they want it to be, otherwise it would be different. If you're fat, you want to be fat; if you're broke, you're broke because you want to be broke - one of my books is called "You're Broke Because You Want to Be." If your kid's an idiot you must be satisfied with that because you haven't done anything to fix it. Everything in your life is exactly the way you want it to be. I can't be proved different on that, no one gets to argue with me on that - your life is the way you want it to be. People love to say "No, I want it to be better. I want that." Well what are you doing about it' If you're not actively doing something about it then you're satisfied with it and if you're satisfied with it then suck it up and live with the results.

Jaime: That's awesome. So what if someone is taking the actions, or what they think the right actions are, and they're not getting the results that they want?

Larry: Obviously they're not the right actions. Right actions produce results. Wrong actions don't produce results or produce the wrong results. If you're doing something and it's not working - stop doing it. I look at everything that I talk about and I'm sort of like that guy, the oldest joke in the world, the guy who goes to the doctor and says "Hey, doctor, it hurts when I do this," and the doctor says "Well don't do it." That's how I look at it, in terms of self-help and personal development - if what you're doing is working, stop doing it and do something else. I've never claimed to have all of the answers but if wheat you're doing right now isn't working you might want to try my idea. If that doesn't work for you, and I can't imagine that it wouldn't, but if that doesn't work for you, go and try something else. Figure out what works for you and do it and if you're not getting the results that you want, go to the mirror and look yourself in the eye and say to yourself "This is my own damn fault and what I'm doing is not working. I should perhaps try something different."

Jaime: I love this. My audience are people who are Eventual Millionaires, so they have a goal to be a millionaire eventually but they want to do it on their own terms, so they want to have an enjoyable life and an enjoyable business - we talk about business a lot on this show - so what advice do you have for somebody who wants to take your advice, because you said it was right, and they're sitting there, going "I want to have freedom, I want to have money and all of this fun stuff?" Give us some examples of the advice you would give someone.

Larry: You can't have it all, see, that's the problem. What you're talking about is having a balanced life where you get to have all on your terms. Balance is a goal but it doesn't work out that way. Do you realize that every time a plane takes off it's of course 97% of the time - it's always, almost 100% of the time, correcting itself. That's the way your puerile plan is going to work out. That's how you become an eventual millionaire - by always correcting yourself along the way. You will be out of balance a good amount of the time. People hate that but that's just the way it really works. If you're busting your butt to become a millionaire, chances are some other area of your life is going to be sacrificed at the moment. You see, one of my definitions of success is being all you can be in all areas of your life without sacrificing any area of your life so that is about balance but you're always going to be out of balance somewhere. If you're really dedicating 100% of your time and your effort and everything into being free or being with your family then your business is probably sucking at that moment. So realize that true balance doesn't really work. it is a goal you keep shooting for. You see, the problem is we've got all of these motivational idiots out there who are telling people they can have it all and you can't have it all, you're going to have to choose, and people don't like to choose. I'm saying pick a lane and stick with it. Reach your goals, get what you want, take care of the other parts of your life - your family, your health and those things - because to be a millionaire and be fat and lazy and have your family walk away from you wouldn't be considered success either, but always know that you're never going to achieve true balance like you just described. I kind of shot your idea into flip there, didn't I?

Jaime: I wouldn't expect anything less, Larry. I think that's really, really important to know, though, because making hard decisions is something that people try to avoid because that's difficult and they don't want to have to pick one because it's hard to pick one. How do you decide which one you want to pick first?

Larry: You look at the area of your life that sucks the most and you try to fix that. If you're truly broke, it doesn't matter how well adjusted you are in other areas of your life, you'd better fix that broke stuff right now. That needs some effort - you need to put some attention into that broke stuff. If you're making lots of money and you're doing really well but you're sick all the time and you have all of this stress and you're worried and you're fretting over everything and your family life sucks, well maybe you ought to put your business on hold for a couple of weeks and go and take care of yourself. So look at where you hurt the most and fix that first. The problem is that people don't like to hurt very much so they figure out a way to live in mediocrity. They're just slightly uncomfortable in pretty much all areas of their life so they don't really suck in any area and they don't really do well in any area. They just kind of ride along in the middle and, every once in a while, will bump their head on the top but they live in the middle and they end up with mediocre results and a mediocre amount of money and a mediocre career and a mediocre family and they sit around and whine about it and say "I could have had more." Yeah, you could have - why didn't you?

Jaime: Your own fault.

Larry: Yep.

Jaime: So let's say money's my thing - maybe I'm not making enough money, maybe my family is doing okay but I'm not making enough money. I focus on money - when do I know that it's going to change? We don't know how long this is going to take, we can't predict how long we're going to be doing this, and unfortunately we're sacrificing the other pieces, which you're saying might drop while I'm doing this, which sucks.

Larry: Welcome to life and welcome to the idea of becoming a millionaire. Part of your life is going to suck all of the time, that's just the way it is. The problem is that we tell people that you can have everything and you can be a success but we don't prepare them for failure. We don't prepare them for the downside. All of my buddies are millionaires. The fastest way of figuring out how much money you're going to have is to look at your five closest friends, because your income is an average of your five closest friends. So look at your five closest friends, figure out how much money they have, that's how much money you've got. What that ought to tell most people is that you need new friends - you need richer friends. I don't know a millionaire, not one, who can say that they got there in a balanced way, that they got there saying that everything in their life was always on keel and they experienced success in all areas. They had to learn how to deal with failure and disappointment and being out of balance and all of those things in order to achieve that. If you really want to make money the best way to do it is to assess how much value you're bringing to the marketplace. Money is in direct proportion to service, to value. If you're broke, you're not providing much service. My mentor, Jim Rohn, who's one of the biggest success philosophers of all time, said that people who make $5 an hour make $5 an hour because they provide $5 of service and it takes them an hour to do so. People who make $5,000 an hour provide $5,000 worth of service and it takes them an hour to do so. The difference is not the hour; the difference is how much service you put in the hour. How much effort does it take to say "Do you want fries with that?" or "Tell me what that noise was again so that I can figure out what's wrong with your car," or "Show me where it hurts and I'll diagnose your health problem?" All three of those sentences took the same amount of time but obviously there's a different amount of value in each one. The guy who works at McDonalds, saying "Do you want fries with that?" is not worth what the auto mechanic is, who is not worth what the doctor is. That's what we have to be reminded of. How much value are you putting into the marketplace' Because that's where your reward comes from.

Jaime: How do we know what value we should be putting out? We may have goals of $5,000 per hour but some people may not know how to increase their value.

Larry: Ask for it. You get what you ask for. If enough people are saying "No" then obviously there's not enough perceived value. If enough people are saying "Yes" then obviously you're delivering. This stuff is really not that complicated. People make this stuff way too hard. If you ask for it and you're worth it, they'll pay you. If you're worth it and you don't ask for it then you're just worth a lot of money but you're sitting on your butt and you're not doing any selling or marketing. If you're asking for it and not getting it, well then you're not worth it. It's really very, very simple.

Jaime: It's so easy to talk about and it makes so much sense when we say it very simply but when it's in your life and in your head and in your mindset it seems so much more difficult to pull out on your own than to have us just talk about it.

Larry: I don't understand that.

Jaime: Don't you feel like the people that you talk to are like "This makes sense, Larry. This makes total sense," but then they go to try to implement it in their life and then other things come up or they don't set priorities.

Larry: That is the key, though - it's about priorities. If it is important enough for you to do it, you will do it, and, by God, nothing will get in your way. You'll get it done if it is important enough for you to get it done. The problem is it's not that important to most people. I read a book called "People Are Idiots and I Can Prove It!", it was  New York Times bestseller and it was based on the fact that people talk a good game and they don't back it up and that's really what we're talking about right now - it wasn't important enough to you to make sure it happens. Everything that's really important to me in life, I make sure it happens, and if it doesn't happen, I sit back and think "Why didn't that happen? Well, it must not have been that important."

Jaime: There are only so many priorities that we can have, otherwise they're not priorities, right? So you have to put some things down lower, like you were saying, in order to do the other things.

Larry: Figure out what hurts the most and that's your biggest priority.

Jaime: Exactly. So, like you said, you can't it all, so we're just screwed no matter what is what it sounds like.

Larry: No, you're not screwed. What you have to do is understand you can't do everything at once. You can't have total freedom and become a millionaire. You can't do it! You're going to have to sell your soul, at some point, to the work, to the customers, to the effort. You're going to have to do that. You can't do it all - and the trouble is we tell people "You can have it all," we tell people "You can do it all," and then we end up with a lot of frustrated people going "I can't do it! What do I do?" Pick a lane, that's what you do. Figure out what's really important to you and do that. People talk about time management - which, by the way, is stupid - you can't manage your time, you can only manage your priorities - and people say "I want to achieve this - I want to call on 14 customers this week." Really? You've got dirty clothes that have been in the back seat of your car for two weeks because you haven't been able to get to the drycleaners and you want to call up 14people? You'd better figure out how to get to the drycleaners. You need to figure out some stuff in your life - you're not good at accomplishing things. It's really all so simple to me. I deal with so many excuses and so many "Yeah, but Larry,'s and I just get sick of it. There's no "Yeah, but"" If it's important to you, you'll do it without exception.

Jaime: I love that. You call out all the excuses like it's nothing every single time. That's awesome. It's a huge skill to have, though, because we use excuses to stop ourselves from doing so many things in life.

Larry: Here's what I'd like everybody to do - get a sheet of paper and write down all the reasons you're not doing well. Really. I do this in front of huge companies, Fortune 500 companies, and I'll say "Let's go through all the reasons you're not doing well." "Well, it's the economy. Larry, did you not pay any attention? We're in the middle of a recession," or "It's Obama's fault," or "It's still Bush's fault," or "It's the government," or it's the weather - "The first quarter of this year we had really cold temperatures and that's the reason retail sales are off, I just watched it on the news." So we have all of these lists of things, everything has got a list, and if everybody, right now, figured out their list of reasons they aren't doing so well, I would say to you "Here's the problem with your list - you're not on it!"

Jaime: A very valid point. That makes a lot of sense. If you're not the one you can't change any of it anyway so it doesn't really matter. So tell me what we should be doing to look within ourselves and know that we're the problem. Should we create a list of the problems that we're creating in our lives and try to change that? How do we get to that point?

Larry: Alright. First of all, you're always the problem.

Jaime: Thank you, Larry. I appreciate you saying that!

Larry: You're always the problem. Go back to what I was just talking about. You know, we all deal with the same list - I deal with the same economy you're dealing with, I'm dealing with the same government problems you're dealing with, the same weather you're dealing with, I'm dealing with the same stupid employees and customers and things that everybody deals with. How is it that somebody can take that list and become millionaires and some people can take that list and stay broke? It's obviously not the list's fault - it's always going to be your fault. So never ask the question "I wonder if it's me?" It's you!

Jaime: I'm glad we clarified that. I hope everybody got that. That's awesome. So let's say we've got somebody who knows that it's them - I'm totally clear, it's all my fault - yet I pick a priority, I really want to get my money figured out, I'm trying to start this business, I'm working my butt off to try to start this business, and at the beginning you were talking about the whole failure and disappointment thing so as you're going through and trying really hard, maybe not taking the right actions, maybe taking some right actions, but then you bump up against failure or disappointment or something like that - how do we get past that?

Larry: You just get past it. People are looking for magic bullets here and the key to doing all of this stuff is you dust yourself off, you get back up and you go back to work. You see, the problem is that people like to wallow in it and they like to think about it too much. Why do people have to think so much? Think, think, think. Why do people go to work? We sit around in all of this self-reflection " "I wonder what went wrong? I wonder what I should do?" Do anything " action changes things. You see, we also live in a society right now that paid way too much attention to "The Secret", that idiotic, stupid, most ignorant thing that's ever been written, and then that stupid "Law of Attraction" and we forget that the most attractive thing to success is work - that's what it's going to come down to. Dust yourself off and go back to work. Stop getting stuck in self-contemplation. I know the follow up question you're going to ask - I can guess it.

Jaime: Alright, go ahead.

Larry: How do we know, Larry? What's the right thing to be working on?

Jaime: Good job!

Larry: That's too much contemplation there. Here's what I say - do something, do anything, and if it's the wrong thing, you'll find out really quick because the wrong thing won't produce the right results. If it's the right thing you'll find out really quick because it will produce the right results.

Jaime: What happens if you keep choosing the wrong thing, though?

Larry: Well then you're an idiot. Someone who continues to do the wrong thing and gets bad results and they continue to do the wrong thing is too stupid to be successful. They need to get a job saying "Do you want fries with that?" because they are losers who are not cut out to be entrepreneurs - and I say that in absolute honesty. Very few people are cut out to be entrepreneurs. Most of our society would be much better off with a job.

Jaime: How do we know the difference?

Larry: If you're not doing well and you're not getting the right results. Everything is about results. Everything.

Jaime: But let's say maybe someone had a day job and they're working their butt off for a year on the side, trying to hustle, because they know in their heart they want to be an entrepreneur, they're raring to go. They're seeing a little bit of incremental movement but not a big movement. They don't know if it's because they're not putting enough time in or they're not making the right things, whatever the issue is. Does that mean that they're not entrepreneur material and they should call it quits? How do we make that distinction?

Larry: It might mean that they're not entrepreneur material, it might mean that they're not doing the right things, it might mean that they're not putting much time into it. It also might mean that they're cheating the person who's paying their salary right now, too.

Jaime: Let's hope they're not doing that.

Larry: That's typically what happens, though. That really is what happens a lot, is that entrepreneurs want their day job to finance their entrepreneurialism and that's not fair to the people who are paying your salary. First of all, if you want to build something on the side, it still means that you give 100% effort to your day job.

Jaime: I agree.

Larry: That's the honorable thing to do. So never sleight your day job. At that point, though, you might want to go to people who are successful in the industry that you're trying to go into and ask them what you're doing wrong and talk to the people who are making it. Remember - I believe if any one can do it, anyone can do it.

Jaime: How long did it take you to become successful?

Larry: I've been successful in a couple of different careers. When I was 13 years old I walked into my eighth grade civics class and a friend made fun of me for only having one pair of blue jeans - and he could tell I only had one pair because I had a rip in the pocket and all your jeans can't be ripped in the same place - and he humiliated me and embarrassed me in front of a bunch of 13 year old girls and I made a decision in my mind at that moment that I was going to get rich. Nobody was ever going to make fun of me for being poor again. And, by the way, anyone watching this or listening to this needs to understand that it all begins with a decision. That became my priority. I didn't know what to do to get rich, I didn't have any rich role models in Muskogee, Oklahoma - all I knew what that I could out-work anybody. I could work harder, I could go in earlier, I could stay in later, I could skip lunches, I could put in more effort, I could watch everybody and say "I can do that and I can do it better and longer and harder than anybody." I can out-work anybody, and that's the skill that I had and that's what I did. When I was going to college I was a telephone operator for Southwestern Bell at the time, one of the very first male telephone operators. When I left ten years later I was the area state manager for the state of Kansas for AT&T so I did very well in my career with the telephone company. I left and started my own telecommunications company and did really well and had three offices until the state of Oklahoma came in and said "We are going to rule against you and what you do for a living is no longer going to be legal," and I'd been doing it for eight years at that point. So I went to work one day a rich guy and came home that day bankrupt and lost everything.

Jaime: How do get over that? I know I asked you that question before but how did you specifically do it?

Larry: I had commitments. I have learned to be very committed to my commitments. My commitments were my bills - I had people who had loaned me money for a house and I had a house payment that was due, I had car payments that were due, I had kids, I had a family, I had electricity and water to pay for, I had to put food on the table - those were my commitments and I was so committed to my commitments that I was willing to do anything. I went to work that morning as the president of the company and came home that afternoon bankrupt and lost everything. The next day I was knocking on my neighbor's door, saying "Can I mow your yard?"

Jaime: Really? You actually did that? Wow.

Larry: I was willing to do whatever it took in order to meet my commitments. You see, I don't think today we have that kind of commitment to our commitments. We go "Oh, it's just a MasterCard bill, we'll let it slide this month." Really? See, that's a lack of integrity - you signed a contract with MasterCard that said you will pay this amount of money on this date and you don't do that you're a liar and a cheat and you lack integrity and nobody should ever work with you and you should die broke in a grave somewhere in a field. I'm real tough on that stuff.

Jaime: Just a little!

Larry: Integrity, honesty and commitment. Like I said, I went from being the company president to mowing my neighbor's yard because I had commitments. I started in this business as a sales trainer because I had written training material at one time for AT&T and I knew that I was going to be successful in this business. I didn't have a lot of time to become successful in this business - I had lost my job and, like I said, I had bills to pay, commitments to pay, so, again, I was willing to work harder than anybody else. I took the Yellow Pages from Tulsa, Oklahoma and started at the As in the business section and worked all the way through to the Zs, calling every single business and saying "Do you have any sales people?" and I would talk to a printing company who said "Well we've got one guy who we put out there and he goes door to door," and I said "I will train that guy." I sold 45 minute sales training sessions, six different sessions, for $75 a session when I first started. Now I'm about two hundred times that.

Jaime: Your value has gone up!

Larry: Yeah, so I was willing to do whatever it took. You ask "How do you do that?" Well you just do it. If you have commitments and you build your life on honesty, integrity and doing the right thing you don't get stuck in blame, you don't wallow in it, you don't let anger get in your way, you don't let your ego get in the way - you do what it takes to do the right thing, regardless.

Jaime: I tell my kids that we do it no matter what. I love you no matter what, but if there's something you're committed to doing you have to do it no matter what and it sounds like that's something that you really took to heart - "No matter what, I'm going to do this." Did you always know you were going to be successful once you had made that decision when you were 13?

Larry: I never set out to be anything but successful in anything that I started out doing, no matter what it was. I watched television and these game shows where people say "I'm in it to win it." What a stupid thing to say - of course you're in it to win it. Why would you be in it to lose? Why would you have to say that? Everybody's in it to win it and if they're not in it to win it they should never have signed up. So when I start on any project, any career, anything in the world, I'm in it to be successful. I knew that I would be at the top of my industry. How did I know that? I was willing to do whatever it took, no matter what. I was willing to sacrifice. I was willing to go in early and stay late. I was willing to do what most people weren't willing to do. The fastest way to become a millionaire is be willing to do what most people aren't willing to do.

Jaime: For sure. I think one of the things that's interesting, especially with "no matter what", is when you're pushing forward and you don't necessarily know - like when I was 8 I wanted to be a millionaire and I had this weird "knowing" that I would be a millionaire. I was 8, so whatever. When I started interviewing millionaires I started asking them whether they knew in advance that they would be successful. Did you know? Did you have a knowing, even at 13, that you would be a millionaire and do you think you have to know for you to be successful?

Larry: I don't think you have to know. I think you have to have that somewhere in your system, a goal that you're going to be the best at what you do, and whatever rewards come with that, those are your rewards. I think that satisfaction does not come from a number. I think $1 million is just a measurement. True success comes from knowing "I'm the best at what I do," and that was always my goal - to be the best at what I do - and I still, maybe naively, believe that people who are the best in their industry, and I don't care whether you're a janitor or whether you're a sales person or whether you're a CEO, if you're the best you will be rewarded at the top of that industry. I believe it.

Jaime: I love that. Because then we're focused on something that we can actually change, instead of just focusing on the money or anything like that, you're focusing on the value.

Larry: That's what happens when you get the million dollars and you weren't the best to get there. You don't have any self-respect, you don't have the pride that comes with it. So I think the number is sort of a false goal. I think your goal should always be to be the best at what you do, to work the hardest at what you do and to provide the most service possible. And remember - your rewards in life are in direct proportion to your service.

Jaime: Everybody used to ask me "Don't you just want to win the lottery?" and I was like "I want to earn it. I don't want to win the lottery - that would be a cop out." Not that I wouldn't take it, but I feel like that would be a cop out. I wanted to do it on my own, even when I was little, which was kind of weird.

Larry: You don't want to win the lottery because 98% of them end up broke.

Jaime: Totally.

Larry: Did you see the guy who won $1 million in the lottery and he went out and bought $1 million worth of lottery tickets?

Jaime: I'm sure he's exactly where he's supposed to be.

Larry: He ended up a broke idiot the next day.

Jaime: Let you said, he's exactly where he's supposed to be. That's awesome. I love talking to your, Larry. This is so fun. We have to start wrapping up in just a second, though, so what's one action listeners can take this week to help move them forward towards their goal of $1 million?

Larry: Alright, here's what I want you to do - get three sheets of paper. On the first sheet of paper, write down where you are in your life. Write down where you are financially, your career, your relationships, your health - every single area of your life. There is no app for this - it's three sheets of paper and a pen. On the second sheet of paper I want you to write down how you want it to be in your life. This is how it is; this is how I want it to be. There's a correlation between the first two in terms of career and money and health and family and all of that. This is how it is and this is how I want it to be. On the third sheet of paper I want you to write down what you're going to give up to get from where you are to where you want to be. We talk about success in terms of getting - how do you get to be a millionaire? You want to know how to get to be a millionaire? You give up all of the things that are keeping you from being a millionaire. How do you get rich? You give up what's making you broke. How do you get healthy? You give up the stuff that's making you unhealthy. How do you get happy? You give up what's making you unhappy. How do you get skinny? You give up what's making you fat. I talk about sacrifice and true success comes from sacrifice and that is an ugly word in today's society because people don't want to give up anything - they don't want sacrifice anything. I already talked about the motivational idiots who say you can have it all - no you can't, you're going to have to choose. This exercise I just took you through is about figuring out what your true choices and priorities are and the willingness to sacrifice and give up what's standing in your way. That exercise will make a difference.

Jaime: Yes it will, and most people won't do it because it's going to be too hard. I just want to mention to everybody that's listening - if you don't actually do the exercise, you won't get to where you want to be. If you can't do it right now, if you're driving or something like that, put it in your calendar, make a note to actually do it, because if you don't, like Larry says, if you're not taking action on this stuff, that's critical, then you're not going to get what you want on the other piece of paper, unfortunately. I really appreciate you coming on the show today. Where can we find out more about you and your books and all the stuff that you've got going on?

Larry: I'm an easy guy to find - just look up Larry Winget anywhere on the internet. You can go to my website, larrywinget.com. I've probably got the most interactive page on Facebook - I fight with people every single day. It's the Larry Winget Fan Page. I told people the other day, "You're too stupid for me to communicate with even on Facebook," and dumped them. If you want my book, you can of course get signed copies on my website or go into any book store. Since they're all New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers they're going to be in book stores. I've got a training program that you can find on my website. Just go to larrywinget.com and you'll find out everything you want to know. Turn on the news - I'm usually on some program every day.

Jaime: I love that. I love you, Larry, I think you're awesome. I love the fact that you fight with your own Facebook fans and they like it, I'm sure.

Larry: Absolutely. You have to have rabid enemies in order to have rabid fans and I'm willing to have rabid enemies.

Jaime: That's so awesome. Thank you so much for coming on the show today. I really, really appreciate it.

Larry: I've had fun, thanks.

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