How To Become Twice As Productive with Rob Rawson

CEO and co-founder of Staff.com and Time Doctor – Rob Rawson

Rob is the CEO of Staff.com and founder of TimeManagement.com. His tips have saved me at least 3 hours every week already! (since we recorded the interview) Don’t miss out on tactics that can change your work week!

Resources mentioned in the podcast:

• Getting Things Done by David Allen
• Asana
• Timedoctor
• Buffer blog
• KISSmetrics

Go to Staff.com for more info!

Thanks so much for listening!

Transcript:

Jaime: Do you want more time? You can't say no to that, so listen in to Rob Rawson. He has saved me, just from this one interview that we did, over three hours a week - and I'm one of those people who I thought was pretty good at productivity. So don't miss it.

Announcer: Welcome to the Eventual Millionaire podcast - with your host, Jaime Tardy. Real talk and real advice from real millionaires, with a sharp focus on you - the Eventual Millionaire.

Jaime: Welcome to Eventual Millionaire. I'm Jaime Tardy and todayon the show we have Rob Rawson. Now, he was a medical doctor before and then got into internet startups. He's the founder of Time Doctor, which is an awesome piece of software. Right now he's the CEO of Staff.com. He was also the creator of TimeManagement.com, which is an insane domain name. He's done so many different things and knows so much about business. I'm so excited to have him on the show. Thanks very much for coming on, Rob.

Rob: It's great to be here and chat to you.

Jaime: Let's first talk about Time Doctor - you're really into time management and all of that stuff. How did that first come about?

Rob: I actually went to the Philippines and I had a team working in an office there, so I had over 20 people sitting in an office in the Philippines, and what I found was that I was mostly working from home but I would be constantly drawn back to the office to have meetings, etc., and essentially I wanted to get rid of the office. So I created this software in order for me to get rid of the office and I didn't have to worry about having an office and still be able to manage 20 people in the Philippines, and now it's over 50 people around the world.

Jaime: Wow, that's amazing. When was that? When did you start Time Doctor?

Rob: I actually started the idea of the software about four or five years ago and went through some very early iterations. It was actually terrible in the beginning, my first ideas of how to do it. We launched as a commercial offering one and a half years ago.

Jaime: Really? So you were scratching your own itch - you needed this software. Did it already exist somewhere else too?

Rob: I actually didn?t know of any software like this previously, so no, I hadn't seen any software that could do what I wanted to do.

Jaime: Why don't you tell people what it is, too, because we're being very vague about it.

Rob: The software checks the time of everyone working, verifies the work hours, so that you know exactly how many hours everyone is working and you verify it and see screenshots if you want, or websites that have the locations that they're using. This is important when a person is working from home all of the time in another country and you're never there and you just need a bit of reassurance to know that the person really is working all of the time, they're not just sitting on Facebook most of the time. Also I designed it for myself to improve my own productivity so I combined those two things together.

Jaime: So you actually use it for yourself too? Or you did.

Rob: I still do. I use it for myself to try to improve my own productivity as well.

Jaime: Tell me a little more about that, because that is intriguing to me. I have people who work for me and I have them use software just like that and it saves me a lot of time and money because I actually found from one of the screenshots that one of my people in the Philippines was giving my passwords away to someone else. So that was good to notice! Horrible, of course, but it was really good to notice and that made it so that it was easy for me to let them go, unfortunately. But for your own self, I've never thought about using it for myself, so tell me how you use it.

Rob: I actually have it for tracking all of my activities, so I have a list of tasks and it lists all of my tasks in different folders so that when I'm working on this task I can track how much time I've spent on each activity, so it keeps me focused on my top priorities and it also tells me how many hours I've spent on each task.

Jaime: I love that. I usually use Rescue Time which tells me how much time I spend on Facebook and e-mail but it doesn't get as granular as telling me which projects I'm working on and how much time. So do you review that every single week?

Rob: I do review the information. I think the most important thing is keeping myself focused on the top priorities, so I think that's actually the most important time management trick or tool that I've encountered, is just simply making a list of your top priorities to really do that in an effective way and then to stick to it and say "I'm not going to do these minor things that are just sitting there, I'm actually going to focus on these things," and that's something that I do. I actually make a list of all of my tasks. Sometimes I don't necessarily do any of them - I'll think "Those are okay, those may help me a little bit, but what do I really need to do? What's really important? What's even more important than all of those?" I'm still improving on that, too, because it's so easy to do all the time, it's so easy to slip up as well, and start working on the more mundane stuff.

Jaime: I really appreciate you saying that, because everyone does that and I assume there are gurus who say "This is what you're supposed to do for time management," but you slip up sometimes too, which is refreshing to here.

Rob: I really focused on time management for a while - I read everything that I possibly could on it and that helped immensely. At the time I was actually travelling around the world so one month I was in one location, another month I was in another location, and that does mess up your schedule a bit so I had to use those time management tools and techniques in order to be effective.

Jaime: Give us the lay of the land - what are you doing right now in time management? We would love to hear it so that we can implement some of the systems too. So, number one, is using the software, Time Doctor, so that way you're paying attention to that, but do you have other things that you do?

Rob: There are other things that I do. Let's talk about e-mail - so e-mail strategy is really important because you can get swamped with e-mail, so I have a zero inbox policy, you've probably heard of that concept before, and it just means that you're always going back to zero with your inbox, so you've got this conscious attention on handling each e-mail immediately. When it comes to you, you don't procrastinate, going "Oh, I'll do that tomorrow. I don't need to do that now." And then you come back to it and you go "Oh, I don't need to do that now," again, so you're constantly re-reading all of the e-mails. Instead of that, you handle it straight away, you delete it, you archive it, or you can actually then put it into your task system and prioritize it. One of the keys, I think, to time management is that it's not about working harder, it's not about trying to do everything on your To Do list, in fact I would say that if you do everything on your To Do list, then you're doing something wrong. I would go that far, saying you're not being effective if you're handling every single one of your tasks, because it means that you're not prioritizing enough. A more effective way is to actually have all of your tasks listed down so that you've got them all there so that you don't have them mulling around in your brain, "Maybe I should do that, maybe I should do that." You've got them all listed down, they're all on paper, whether that's Time Doctor, whether that's a piece of paper - a piece of paper is a bit inefficient, but an Excel spreadsheet is okay, I used an Excel spreadsheet at one stage. You can use Wunderlist, you can use Asana - those are two really good free tools for tracking your tasks, and you just have them all listed down and basically you then prioritize them, so you actively procrastinate on some of them. It's really hard for me, personally - I find it hard to say "I'm not going to do this," but if I can say "I'll do it later," I don't have a problem with that. So I have this list of 100 things, it's actually more than that, it's over 200 tasks right now, and in that list, all of those things that could be good to do have some merit but I can't do all of them so I actually put them in the list of priorities and really identify what are important tasks and then the ones that are not important I've got them sitting there so that, in theory, I'll do them, and some of them I will actually do, but a lot of them I'll never, ever do, so that procrastination is so powerful because if I start working on those it's going to distract me from my real, important tasks and I think that's critical.

Jaime: I agree a thousand times over. I use Asana and of course there are way too many things that my entrepreneurial brain thinks of - like "Oh, I should do that," and even a couple of minutes later I'll be like "That's probably not a good idea." I have a list kind of similar to that but I don't find that I go back and pay attention. Even if they were good ideas sometimes I never go back to it, so how do you make sure that you're still working on the stuff that's good, if there are golden nuggets in there?

Rob: Well if you've heard of the "getting things done? methodology, that's a very popular technique and what he teaches is a great methodology and one of the things that he talks about is every week go back and review your list. So, personally, I do try to do that and, in reality, I probably do that once or twice a month, I go to my list and I review them and I say "Is that really still necessary? Is that still necessary? Can I put that as a lower priority? Oh, I've already done that," sometimes I notice that I've already done things.

Jaime: That's how you do it. I really appreciate that. I've interviewed David Allen also and it was funny because I was like "do you do every single piece of your system?" and he's like "Yes." How the heck? I can't do it all and I'm so thankful that you can't do it either. So every single week is really, really tough. Maybe once a month I'll be able to get to read everything. So I really appreciate you saying that too. Do you use priorities in yours? Because I never really use priorities in my To Do lists.

Rob: I only use priorities for my "today" tasks and I do that in order to really make sure that I'm identifying the most crucial task and one of the things that I'm focusing on right now is to work on my top priority first thing in the morning. So when I first come in, I don't do my e-mails, I don't do any kind of random task that's just on my list - I actually identify what's really going to move me forward towards my long term goals and I work on that first and I put that at the top of the list. I don't know if David Allen really identifies that priority method and I think he doesn't do it because a lot of the time it breaks down, but I think for your "today" priorities it does help to at least prioritize the top three. You don't have to make a list of 15 priorities but if you just put the really top ones at the top and work on those, that's quite effective.

Jaime: It takes a lot of discipline, though, to not check your e-mail - so tell me how you do that. I know it's important to work on your stuff first but I'm always "Let me just see what I have here?"

Rob: I had a massive issue about that and I still do have an issue about checking my e-mail too often. To be honest, I haven't found a really great solution. I'll tell you why I haven't found a solution - I'm using Gmail online and so, ideally, I'd love to have a desktop solution where it doesn't download the e-mail so you have to click on the button to download the e-mail but you can't do that with Gmail, there's no way to do that. There are some Gmail plugins but they just don't do it in an effective way. So I haven't been able to get offline Gmail, because I really love the organization and the speed and so on, so I do just have to do it myself and I'm fairly effective at it. I'll probably check my e-mail five or six times a day, maybe a little bit more if my Gmail is just open there, but I just close down the tab whenever I can and that's it. So the problem with closing down the Gmail tab is that then you sometimes have to send an e-mail and when you send the e-mail you're tempted to check all the other e-mails.

Jaime: Yes, a thousand times over. One of the problems that I have is that I use Gmail and even when I'm sitting there, trying to get to inbox zero, by the time I almost get there, the people that I've just e-mailed have replied and I'm not anywhere close again. How often are you at inbox zero?

Rob: Right now I have three e-mails so I'm technically not on inbox zero but I pretty much archive it most of the time.

Jaime: Really? Oh, man! Well that's amazing to know that you can do that. I think I have 60 or something and I'm always like "I still have to do all of those e-mails!" Do you set specific times aside every day? Walk me through what your routine is.

Rob: I don't have a specific time. I just find that too hard and too anal, really, to say "I'm going to do it at this time."

Jaime: "It's one o'clock - let's check e-mail!"

Rob: Exactly. There is a trick with Gmail as well - there is a special setting where it can automatically just show you the next e-mail, so what happens is I view the e-mail then I archive it and as soon as it archives it shows me the next e-mail, so it doesn't go back to the inbox, it constantly cycles through the e-mails faster. I don't know if you use that. It's actually in the advanced settings, so I can probably give you the exact details later on.

Jaime: I appreciate that. I have a question - I know we're getting pretty technical but I have to ask about archiving - I always move them into folders instead of hitting the archive button because it just randomly goes into the archive. What do you do? Do you just archive it and it just goes wherever?

Rob: Yes, I don't bother with the folders, and that's because Gmail has very good search capabilities so you can search by the person's e-mail and I think the time taken to archive into a specific folder is really not necessary. There are ways to create automatic folders for people, so within Gmail and other e-mail programs you can automatically create a folder for the person so it is automatically archived. I would definitely not click and drag an e-mail from one place to another - that is a waste of time.

Jaime: That's what I do! Okay, thank you for saving me a lot of time. But I mostly search. I know what the folder is but then I have to scroll through forever so I'll search within the folder. Sometimes the search gives me issues but that will save me so much time, although it's a little scary to just hit the archive button.

Rob: Because you want to know, physically, where it's going, you don't want it to just go into the Gmail ether and hope that it's still there, I bet. I guess you've just got to trust Google in this instance.

Jaime: Alright, trust Google! But thank you so much - just that one tip will save me so much time, even if it's scary. You've been doing it and it's been working for you, so hopefully it will work for me, right?

Rob: Yes.

Jaime: Hopefully! Okay. I needed the reassurance one more time. Awesome, so that's e-mail and e-mail's a huge piece but you also talk all the time about outsourcing - you are CEO of Staff.com, which helps people find people to do the work for you. I have someone who helps me with my e-mail but I'm still overloaded. What do you suggest on that? I?m definitely going to use your tactic but do you have any other tips for e-mail, in general, whether I could do better outsourcing it or whether I could do better things on my own?

Rob: I know that Timothy Ferris outsources his e-mail. I think it really depends on the type of business and what you're doing. I haven't ventured into that yet.

Jaime: Do you do all of yours?

Rob: Yes. I use e-mail as my communication flow. I do heavily filter out my e-mails. I don't use the automatic boxes that Gmail has; I create a lot of filters for things so that I'll automatically filter out all of the different newsletters that I don't necessarily want to read or don't want in my inbox, but it goes into a "To Read" folder. So I do that very actively and then, if I'm looking at my "To Read" folder I might have 100 e-mails but I just scan through that and check one or two of them and that's it. That definitely saves a lot of time. I haven't figured out how to get an assistant who's actually going to be high level enough to do that for me. What they'd really have to do is do my work and I find that a little tricky. I think if you're at the level where you've having a lot of conversations with people and that's the type of work that you're doing then you can outsource the e-mail but I think it just depends on the type of work that you're doing.

Jaime: Definitely. Unfortunately I would love to e-mail everyone that e-mails me, and I definitely try to, but there's just so much and I only work 30 hours a week because I have a small kid. I hated to give that piece up but it saved me so much time. The fact that you have the filters set up that way and stuff like that is really, really important. I'm taking notes too - you're going to save me a whole bunch of time, I really appreciate this. The funny thing is, though, that you also e-mailed me when I signed up for Staff.com. You, personally, wrote and said "Hey, I just wanted to check in." That was really, really impressive - do you do that with a lot of different people or was it because we had already connected?

Rob: I'm trying to remember that exact e-mail but I think it was an automated e-mail, wasn't it?

Jaime: I don't know, I thought you'd e-mailed me back. That was really impressive, then, if I thought it was real. Because I e-mailed you and I though you e-mailed me back. I'll have to check.

Rob: I don't personally e-mail, generally. I may have done that in your case but I generally don't personally e-mail.

Jaime: Okay, well that also helps, because if you're not trying to e-mail, going back and forth doing customer service pieces, that will definitely clear your inbox, comparatively. How big is Staff.com and when did you start with it?

Rob: We started as a paid service in April of last year. We've got over 5000 people working on the platform altogether and we're trying to create something that's very valuable and is going to create a huge impact in the global remote working space.

Jaime: I love that. Tell everyone what Staff.com is.

Rob: It is a platform to help find and manage, so the Time Doctor piece that we talked about before is actually integrated into Staff.com, and also pay workers. So it's those three pieces together. The three components - find, manage/track and then pay. So within the find on Staff.com you can also use other places such as LinkedIn, which is a great place to find people through referrals, and then you can use Staff.com for tracking and also the payment.

Jaime: So it's kind of similar to oDesk or Elance but you guys can actually help people find qualified workers. Because that's a long process on oDesk and Elance, to test and see who might be good.

Rob: Yes, that's part of it, and it's also just having it as a service, a software service, rather than taking a percentage of the salary.

Jaime: Yes - tell me how that works, because that's intriguing.

Rob: So with the software you're really just paying for the software and you may have found the person yourself or you may actually just find them on LinkedIn and you're just using the software and the payment system to pay the worker, so that's an option if you have another way to find people. Although actually finding is the most difficult component, especially if you're looking for very high level people - how do you find them? How do you test and evaluate them? That's really the tricky piece. There's a lot of steps that I personally go through when I'm doing that but it is a hard process to find really great people.

Jaime: Can you give me some tips on that? Because I know you've had a lot of experience. Everyone can check out Staff.com anyway, and they'll help you find people, but give us some of the tips that you use to find and hire people, especially remotely because, as you said, sometimes you haven't met face to face, you don't know these people very well.

Rob: Okay, so the first thing is evaluating the people that are coming in. If you post a job, wherever it is, and I actually personally recommend posting in as many places as possible so that you get as many leads as possible. Excuse me.

Jaime: No problem, water boy.

Rob: I have a big bottle of water here so that I don't lose my voice.

Jaime: I know exactly what you mean. I have cough drops here because I never know. I've done so many interviews I'll end up losing my voice by the end of the day, so good luck - hopefully we can still talk!

Rob: This happened to me the other day, actually. I don't have a cold right now but when you're just talking continuously.

Jaime: I know exactly what you mean - if you need to cough I can just edit it out, don't worry!

Rob: I was doing a talk in front of 50 people and I just completely lost my voice.

Jaime: What did you do?

Rob: I was like "Uh, uh, uh, uh," and this was a live talk. I had a cold at that time, it was hilarious. The presenter managed to rescue me a little bit, so that was good.

Jaime: Thankfully. I know how you feel, I've done something like that too. And what do you do? You can't even say anything so you just sit there, like "I can't talk."

Rob: It's funny because I don'tactually talk that much during the day. I have meetings with my different team members but I'd say probably 80% of the day I'm just working on the computer.

Jaime: Really? What does your day mostly consist of? Because I was looking at your TechCrunch profile and that sort of thing, you look at your lists and it's crazy the stuff you've been working on. What do you spend most of your day doing?

Rob: About two or three months ago I read an article from Robin Conway who's a top investor in Silicon Valley and what he talked about was how the most important thing to focus on, I have Facebook and Twitter and so on, all of them are focusing on the product, how to make the product the best it can possibly be. So now I'm not focused on marketing at all, I'm actually completely focused on making the product as good as it can be. I'm focused on hiring new developers, so we're hiring about a developer per month at the moment, we hired three in the last month, and that's in order to make the product really amazing, because I believe that that basis, of having an amazing product, will lead to the customers being satisfied and will lead to the growth in the future. It depends on the exact business that you're in, but we're doing more of the technology business so my day consists mostly of product management, looking at the features, testing the features, and that's a huge component of what I'm doing, but then it's all of the other CEO stuff like the financials, hiring, recruitment, strategy, setting up a payment system for our business and for Staff.com, all of those things.

Jaime: It's really interesting that you're not really focused on marketing, although in the social world we live in, if it's an absolutely amazing product, people are pretty good at sharing, telling and explaining to other people how amazing something is. Does it feel weird, not focusing on marketing? That's usually what everyone says - you need to market and sell. I just interviewed someone who said selling is the only thing that matters, so tell me about that.

Rob: I think it depends on the type of product you're doing. I think if you're starting off with a service based business, then the first thing you should do is sell. You shouldn't prepare the product as the first thing. If you're doing a product based business or a technology business then I think that marketing definitely has to come into it, it has to come into your strategy, how are you going to market it? But if you're focused on the development and that's the core piece of what you're doing, then I do believe that that will make a big impact if you focus on that.

Jaime: Definitely. It's really interesting to hear that you're spending that much time working on that specific piece, especially as it's not that old 0 Staff.com is not that old

Rob: And my business partner is focused on marketing.

Jaime: Okay, good. That always helps. Having someone else working on that is definitely good.

Rob: I try to do marketing pieces that are outsourced and automated 0 for example, we're doing content marketing and we're putting out some infographics, things like that, which actually work very effectively to get a community in to see the products. So I outsource most of those components, I can still manage that with a small amount of time per week.

Jaime: So you outsourceyour content and stuff like that. Where do you have people doing that? Are they all over the world?

Rob: I outsource creating infographics and, yes, I have somebody actually in Colombia who's doing that and it's very low cost, it's just $200 per infographic.

Jaime: Really? That's awesome. I really appreciate that, too.

Rob: It's just the design.

Jaime: Okay. Not the content and the other pieces of it, okay. That's really cool. I know you can get them on Fiverr but there are also people paying $5000 for one infographic, which is a huge discrepancy. So you've found a lot of success with infographics too, because that's another question that I get a lot and something that I'm wondering too, with my book launch and everything - are infographics pulling in people? You say that they're working quite well for you.

Rob: I think they are working quite well in bringing people to our blog and getting SEO links coming in and getting a certain amount of exposure to our site. I think it's a very long process and you really have to put out a lot of content. If you look at the guys who are doing it very well, that would be Buffer and Kissmetrics blog, those are the two blogs that spring to mind, and those blogs are really good, amazing content, and they're constantly putting out new content, so they're putting out new content probably three times a week, and that's extremely difficult. I am not capable of putting out three amazing pieces of content every week, you have to have a very good content team, really full time, doing that.

Jaime: That's amazing. How much content are you putting out?

Rob: Not enough. What we should do is three amazing pieces a week, what we are doing is probably three a month, something like that.

Jaime: I know you have as SEO company too, so the quantity really does matter?

Rob: I believe it does, yes, from looking at those other blogs and how much traffic they've got and the community they've built up, yes, I think it's much better to have the quantity if you can do it. If you can do a lower quantity but it's still very highly useful information and great infographics, for example, then it's okay to do it less frequently but you're not going to get as much traffic.

Jaime: I just had a guest post go live in Kissmetrics and it went crazy. That's a ridiculously high-trafficked blog. Mine doesn't do that and I've asked Neil "How did you get it?" and he told me to guest post, guest post, guest post - get out there and put out as many guest posts as humanly possible, and then think of the content that you need to produce and the content that you need to put on other people's sites. It's amazing how much content you need to keep coming up with. We live in a noisy world so I totally get that,but how do you get people who are good at content? If we are going to have someone write our content for us, how do you find someone like that?

Rob: I don't have an answer for that, honestly. I don't know how to find a really good person who can write great content because the quality of content that you have to produce now is just going up and up. It's not a matter of just finding a good writer. I do, however, think it's possible to take existing content that's amazing and then have a writer rewrite it. It's a little sneaky, but I think that is possible. If you identify the content that's applicable to your website and then you have somebody rewrite it, I think that's possible and then you want to look for somebody in the United States, you don't want to look offshore, obviously, because it's just very hard to find a great person offshore. I think it's rewriting content; if you're writing from scratch, it has to be an original, really well thought out idea and that is a unique skill.

Jaime: So does your marketing guy do most of your content or do you do some content?

Rob: I basically do the content, but if I'm doing an infographic I will get a researcher to research the infographic. I got my team to research a list of about 50 different possible infographics we could do, then I narrowed that down to 10 that we wanted to do and the team, which is in the Philippines, will then identify they key facts to put into the infographic and I will review that and put it into a list that I think is really punchy and useful information, so we'll have all of that. They can do the research, no problem, and then I can do the narrowing down. Once I've narrowed it down into a Word doc, I send that Word doc off to a designer and the designer can do it and it's costing me $200 but it's hard to find a designer, you've really got to work to find someone who's reasonable for that amount.

Jaime: Definitely. How many hours do you work? You're doing all the content, you're doing this, you're doing that - how many hours do you actually work?

Rob: I measure it on Time Doctor so I know pretty much exactly how much I work. I work around 40 hours a week. That's actual hours, so I'd say that's equivalent to 50 - if someone says they work 50 hours, it's 40 of real, actual work. That's quite a lot, but I'm growing a company, I'm really excited about it and I enjoy doing it so it's not an issue.

Jaime: That's great. We have to start wrapping up and I always ask the same last question - what's one action listeners can take this week to help move them forward towards their goal of $1 million?

Rob: One of the things that I think is so powerful is that people don't take enough action and they don't really do things to an extent that they need to go to. I'll give some examples about this, but what I'm talking about is you've got your strategy, you've got an idea and you've got which direction you're going in - are you taking just a little bit of action or are you taking massive action? This is a concept that I learned originally from Anthony Robbins - taking massive action - and it's really stuck with me. An example of this is, many years ago when I was doing a strategy of advertising on Google AdWords I was making a little bit of money doing advertising on one keyword and then sending the money to other keywords, and I know that some people were making $1000 a month. Well, I took massive action - I advertised on as many keywords as possible and at one stage I was making hundreds of thousands per month. So that's one example. Another example is that, right now, I'm looking for a payment provider for Staff.com and I'm looking at all of the payment providers, so massive action means that I'm looking at every single company in the entire world that could possibly do this and contact every single one of them. If you do that, you're going to get results. If you just contact one or two people, you may not get the result that you want to get. So that's a couple of examples and when I'm hiring someone for my own company, it's about getting every single angle that I can to get people in, so I post on every place that I can, I contact people on LinkedIn, I ask for referrals, I do everything possible to get the right person in, because this is a key thing for the business, getting amazing people, so it's about taking massive action. I know that that's a nebulous concept, taking massive action, but if you really narrow it down, if you think about it - are you taking massive action in your business? And you identify that you could take five or ten times more action, that's very powerful.

Jaime: I think it's amazing that you're going to find every single company. That's insane. You're right, that's massive action. My brain wouldn't automatically go to "Yeah, I'm going to contact every single one," which is amazing, and it sounds like it's really served you well, especially with the AdWords example. That's awesome. I really, really appreciate it, Rob. Where can we find out more about you and Time Doctor and Staff.com?

Rob: You can contact me on Staff.com under the "Contact Us" page and there's a blog on Staff.com with some great tips and information and also, for the time management we talked about, there's a bunch of really good information on TimeManagement.com as well, that's all free.

Jaime: I checked that out too. That's massive. I'm still impressive with the domain name - of all of your domain names, TimeManagement.com and Staff.com, that's some nice domain names that you have. Everyone should be able to remember them - if you're on your phone, in the car, running or exercising, you can remember these domain names, no problem at all. I hope everyone checks them out. Thanks so much for coming on the show today, Rob, I really appreciate it.

Rob: It was really awesome to talk with you.

Jaime: I hope you enjoyed Rob on the show, and I really hope he saves you as much time as he saved me. It was amazing, especially that Gmail archive one, you can tell I was very impressed with it. So if you haven't already, I would truly, truly appreciate you leaving me a review. Right now I think we have 73 or 75 and I'm really trying to hit 100 iTunes reviews, so if you can do that, that would be amazing, I would appreciate you forever. Go ahead and review Eventual Millionaire on iTunes. Have an amazing day.

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